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It's obvious to anybody who has eyes in this country that tea-baggers, the 9-12ers, these separatist groups that pretend that it's about policy – they are clearly white-identity movements. They're clearly white power movements. What they don't like about the President is that he's black – or half black (applause) – and they, what also is shocking is that people keep pretending that that's not really the case with these people.See? "It's so obvious to anybody" that actual evidence to support her assertions is unnecessary. Conservative Republicans were equally opposed to liberal policies promoted by Democratic presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter -- who were both white Southern males -- so the fundamental basis of Garofalo's argument is self-evidently unsound.
I'm not talking about people that do have problems with his policies, that's fine. But these people, who are also being led by the Glenn Becks, the Michelle Bachmans, the Rush Limbows [presumably Limbaugh], whomever, they are no different than any other white identify movement that's part of our history. This has been going on since the founding of this country that white power movements have tried to establish themselves and hold onto power.
Yet notice how she pre-emptively negates any possibility of rational disagreement. If you dispute her assertion, then you're clearly one of those "people [who] keep pretending that that's not really the case" -- you're deluded, in denial, or engaged in deceit.
She claims she is "not talking about people that do have problems with [Obama's] policies," yet nowhere does she offer genuine evidence that anything other than policy disagreements inspire Glenn Beck or Michelle Bachmann to oppose Obama.
Exactly where does Garofalo derive her psychic mind-reading insights -- her expertise -- about the motives of people she's never met? Ah! The mere fact that you would ask such a question can only mean one thing . . .
Remember: There are five A's in raaaaacism!
Exactly where does Garofalo derive her psychic mind-reading insights -- her expertise -- about the motives of people she's never met?
ReplyDeleteFrom her friend Mary Jane: the Oracle of Delphi for pseudo-intellectual leftists everywhere.
It could be said that Garofalo is only one person, so what does it matter what she thinks? But what is eye-opening is that she's being given a platform by a media which is showing that it doesn't know any better. That shows that the problem goes much deeper.
ReplyDeleteRacism is a conservative trait. Not all conservatives are racist, but whoever’s racist, that part of them is conservative. It’s like pro-gay marriage. That’s a liberal trait. Not all liberals are pro-gay marriage, but whoever’s pro-gay marriage, that part of them is liberal. Like Dick Cheney. Almost completely conservative, but that pro-gay marriage part of him is liberal. That’s what Garofalo meant by “It’s obvious…” which it is, except to social conservatives who are understandably blind to it because they’re narrow-minded.
ReplyDeleteTo back my previous assertion that racism is an inherently conservative trait, here's some evidence.
ReplyDeleteConservative and Liberals attitudes about interracial marriage:
http://books.google.com/books?id=7mJw5IHI0lYC&pg=PA132&lpg=PA132&dq=interracial+marriage+liberal+conservative&source=bl&ots=Y95A5BM2mw&sig=eRFl4DYNTIPfeVG2uPQjaw0BzSE&hl=en&ei=Tiu8SuX5A5XU8Qar1fySDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7#v=onepage&q=interracial%20marriage%20liberal%20conservative&f=false
Pew survey of more than 2,500 scientists and their ideological self-rating:
Liberal 52%
Moderate 35%
Conservative 9%
http://people-press.org/report/528/
I submit scientists by the nature of their job are forced to be more objectively-minded which is anathema to racism and so it logically follows that so few scientists identify with conservatism.
I could go on, but let's just see if these comments even pass approval first.
Dude, Janeanu is a blessing. The more "RAAACIST" smears, particularly from idiots, the less it means. Keep it up!
ReplyDeleteGarofalo is is just some Hot Air America nitwit. What I found interesting was seeing Thomas Friedman sitting there nodding enthusiastically as Garofalo spewed her race-card rubbish.
ReplyDeleteOh, also, remember when Bill Maher used to have diversity of thought on his panels? The last interesting moment I ever saw on Maher's show was when Christopher Hitchens flipped off everyone in the entire studio, audience and all.
But, I will say Richard Dawkins was about to say something "politically incorrect" (remember when Maher used to fancy himself as politically incorrect?) at the end of the panel discussion this week, suggesting that Muslims approve of pedophilia (topic was Polanski). Maher quickly cut him off.
Would it be considered close minded to not waste even one second of attention to this ever-dimming bulb? Taking Mr. Garofalo opinions as entertainment from this first rate dullard is taking her opinions in the proper, yawning, context.
ReplyDeleteWould anybody even know who she is if she didn't keep being outrageous? I say grant her anonymity. Shun her. And while you're at it, quit watching HBO. They don't need our money if they're going to put out this drivel.
ReplyDelete(I know. I know. "Hate speech!" I view it more as "sanity speech.")
That's interesting what a previous poster said about Maher cutting off a guest. It is obvious then, if I were Garofalo, that the media is anti-Christian, since it does not allow offensive remarks made about any other religious groups, only Christians. She is so completely intolerant, she projects it on others. The media bashes those who object strongly to Obama's policies as being haters, but cannot see how much hate they spew. Projection and intolerance reign in the left stream media.
ReplyDeleteI don't know, but for some reason she reminds me of Prof. Irwin Corey.
ReplyDeleteAs a native New Yorker who had the opportunity to travel all accross the South for many years following my daughters softball team I did not see more racism in the South. In fact I saw the girls teams more integrated as opposed to our very segregated teams from NY and NJ.
ReplyDeleteWith the exception of the Texas dragging case almost every major racial incident in the news in the past few decades have happened outside the south. From Rodney King to Abner Louima. From Crown Heights to Howard Beach and then onto the sermons of Rev Wright.
tonejunkie
ReplyDeleteRacism is inherently conservative? How does this explain the left wing support of Sonia Sotomayor despite her racially offensive statements against white males and her equally offensive legal decisions against white firefighters?
I guess, by tonejunkie's formula, that would make the leftists out there nothing but a bunch of fans of collectivism and eugenics.
ReplyDeleteWell the attempt to reengineer humanity based upon pseudo-science is a liberal trait after all. In fact if one looks back they'd notice that progressivism was the major ideological force behind the Nazis, the Fascists and the Communists.
If you examine the major genocides/democides during the 20th century you'd notice that the largest were all done by liberals. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. were all socialists which is, by today's standard, clearly a liberal ideology.
I submit that genocidal maniacs, by their very nature, are forced to expand the government's power to achieve their goals of remaking society. And so it logically follows that few such dictators are actually conservative.
I could go on but.....
jfrancis, why don't you ask the families of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom if black racism is a problem for them?
ReplyDeletetonejunkie, have you ever considered the possibility that the reason why so many scientists are liberal is that they rely on Big Government grants to fund their research?
Broken down Hollywood has-beens are very pathetic; especially when they are used by
ReplyDelete"friends" like Olbermann.
Racism is a conservative trait? That must be why Conservatives in this country strongly favor the law treating people differently based on the color of their skin.
ReplyDeleteOh wait, I forgot... it's the Liberals that believe that.
You can take your assumptions and extropolations and shove them, tonejunkie. Racist is as racist does, and it's not the Right in this nation that keeps trying to divide people based on race.
It seems that the making of ad hominem arguments that can't withstand scrutiny is a Liberal trait. When someone asserts something counter to available evidence and accepts it as truth because it makes them feel good, that part of them is Liberal. When someone shifts the definition of "wrong" to mean "anyone who disagrees with me" that part of the person is Liberal.
ReplyDeleteYes, tonejunkie, I'm looking at you.
I'm going to deconstruct the liberal argument.
ReplyDeletePremise 1: Obama is absolutely, always correct.
Premise 2: Criticism of Obama can't possibly be driven by anything other than his skin color (raaaaacism)
Argument: Since its impossible to criticise Obama, and Conservatives do, they must be criticizing him due to his skin color (raaaaacism)
Conclusion: Conservatives are racist.
Here are the problems with this. Here is my argument.
Premise: Obama is a liberal.
Premise: If criticism of Obama is raaaaacist, that means you would otherwise agree with him if he were white.
Argument: If conservatives are only differing in opinion from Obama because they're raaaaacist, then they would agree with him if he was white. Making them liberal.
Conclusion: Its only possible to be racist if you're liberal.
jfrancis
ReplyDeleteAcorn is an issue all Americans should be concerned about. Do you realize the Congressional Black Caucus could not find one member outraged over ACORNS apparent support of a child sex slave ring and voted Unanmimously against defunding ACORN? Why? Because of racism. They view ACORN as black and will do anything to defend ACORN. To hell with the facts. Toss videos in the trash. Forget the number of prosecutions and corruption that has been exposed. When you are willing to ignore voter fraud and child sex slave rings because you know you are a racist.
Exactly where does Garofalo derive her psychic mind-reading insights -- her expertise -- about the motives of people she's never met?
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I always figured she got her info from the "voices screaming in her head."
Garafalo and Company....I'm gonna come clean...you got me. I went to U-Pull-It-Autoparts (google it)in Minnesota yesterday so I could harvest some parts to fix my poor old
ReplyDeletecar myself (I know, I know...very middle American). When I saw all the Cash-for-Clunkers cars sitting in their lot with disabled engines, unable to harvest their parts, I knew I wouldn't be sick at heart at the waste if only a white president's administration had thought up that stellar plan. I would be all for a government take-over of our automobile industry, damn it, if it was only a white guy "fundamentally changing
America." Having our mainstream media totally betraying democracy would be right up my alley if only they were providing cover for a charming, well-dressed, eloquent, ivy-league Caucasian empty suit. And please, no trouble at all with them going all Chavez over the banking industry if it was the idea of a melanin-challenged Prez. No doubt if a white guy asked me to mortgage my children and grand-children's future to the Chinese, I'd say, "Yes we can!" Yup, you got me.
Holy shit this "jfrancis" is a nucking futs. Keep screeching you fool. You can't really read people's minds no matter how "annointed" you think you are. Your posts are approaching self parody.
ReplyDeleteOh and "tonejunkie" is copying and pasting the same comments on other blogs under different names.
The party of labor, welfare, "progressivism", multiculturalism, and "social justice",
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The party of slavery, segregation, poll taxes, literacy tests, antisemitism, and internment.
Care to answer which party I refer to?...
"So what black organization is next? The SEIU? "
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Stern
Andy Stern's black?
Whoda thuknit?
"jfrancis said...
ReplyDeleteI don't think all of the Tea Partiers are racist. But I do know their leadership is well versed at using race to get people who are racist on their side..."
No links? Any links at all?
buzzz52490 -
ReplyDeleteRacism is inherently conservative? How does this explain the left wing support of Sonia Sotomayor despite her racially offensive statements against white males and her equally offensive legal decisions against white firefighters?
First of all, I suggest you visit Yahoo! political chat sometime and observe regular people getting to express themselves anonymously. Look at the subtle and not-so-subtle racism that comes entirely from the right (taking into account any fakers who are easy to spot) and I’m telling you, except for the occasional anti-Semitic remark from a leftist, which is equaled, as I see it, by anti-Semitic remarks from rightists, the bigotry is entirely from the right. Entirely. I’d bet a thousand bucks in a heartbeat that the first 10 out of 10 racist remarks you see there would be coming from a right-winger. And I would’ve made this bet years ago before Obama showed up.
Even witnessing such behavior amongst themselves, conservatives still think minorities like Sotomayor are imagining bigotry that isn’t there. Liberals think it’s the other way around -- more often than not she’s been right in detecting it. This is an experience of life to which white conservatives are virtually blind. I didn’t have to see the hate coming from a disturbing number of Yahoo! political right-wing chatters to be aware of it. It just confirmed what I already knew.
Imagine if whites were historically a minority in America subjected to persecution by a dominating non-white culture. Now imagine a white person knowing this insidious history and having seen in his own lifetime a law finally passed outlawing widespread disenfranchisement of whites (think Voting Rights Act of 1965) rises up through the ranks in the judiciary and makes the aggressively determined remark, “I would hope that a wise white man with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a (insert dominant culture) male who hasn’t lived that life.” I would consider such a remark just as I described it -- aggressively determined, not racist.
Conservatives fail to see it this way because they’re simply not able to put themselves in other people’s shoes like liberals can. Empathy is fundamentally what divides liberals and conservatives. It also explains why liberals dominate the arts, most notably acting. Liberals make the best actors because they possess more of this ability to put oneself in another’s shoes such as is required of the craft -- except where it involves essentially acting like oneself, which conservative actors can handle. It all comes down to empathy, I think. Conservatives can empathize with others like them, but liberals can go beyond that and empathize with others not like them.
As for the firefighter case, I think Emily Bazelon in Slate put it well:
In other situations like this, minority candidates have successfully sued based on the long-recognized legal theory that a test that has a disparate impact—it affects one racial group more than others—must truly be job-related in order to be legal. You can see why New Haven's black firefighters might have done just that. Why promote firefighters based on a written test rather than their performance in the field? Why favor multiple-choice questions over evaluations of leadership and execution? It's like granting a driver's license based solely on the written test, only with much higher stakes.
Again, not really racist of Sotomayor or liberals who support her like conservatives like to think.
Let me see if I have this right: Republicans Racist Pigs...Democrats Warriors for Equality
ReplyDeleteLets look at history
1) The Republican's first president, Abraham Lincoln, issued the Emancipation Proclamation on Jan. 1, 1863
2) After the civil war it was a Republican-controlled Congress that rammed through the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments to the Constitution that, among other things, abolished slavery, guaranteed equal protection and due process and addressed blacks' right to vote.
3) Democrat governors and Democrat-controlled state legislatures in the South passed Jim Crow laws. Those Democrats created a nearly century-long, legal racial caste system that relegated blacks to the lowest educational, political, economic and social strata.
4) Democrats throughout the United States organized and ran America's premier terrorist organization – the Ku Klux Klan. Just a footnote here.... Did you know there has never been a registered Republican that has been a member of the KKK...interesting isn't it
5) Democrat President Woodrow Wilson? After a screening of D.W. Griffith's paean to the Ku Klux Klan, "Birth of a Nation," Wilson, said of the film: "It is like writing history with lightning. And my only regret is that it is all so terribly true."
6) In 1913, Wilson introduced segregation into the federal government. Allowing federal officials to segregate "toilets, cafeterias and work" areas of various federal departments.
7) Wilson's successor, Republican Warren G. Harding to scraped the segregation policy.
8) In 1922, Harding delivered a bold speech in Birmingham, Ala., (A Democrat stronghold) in which he called for black equality.
9) The Republican Party platform that Harding ran under called for federal anti-lynching legislation. Guess which party voted against it? Democrats!
10) In the '50s, it was Democrat governors and Democrat-controlled state legislatures in the South that placed the Confederate battle flag on their state capitol flags.
11) In 1957, Orval Faubus, the governor of Arkansas, called out his state's National Guard to prevent the integration of Central High School in Little Rock. In response, President Dwight D. Eisenhower sent U.S. troops to the city to escort nine frightened black teens into the school past riotous mobs inflamed by Faubus' defiance of a federal court order. Faubus was a Democrat. Eisenhower was a Republican.
12) Robert Kennedy, in 1964 assisted the FBI's efforts to destroy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. by approving the wiretapping of the man considered the heart and soul of the civil rights movement.
13) The 1964 Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 would never have became law if not for Republican senators and congressmen whose overwhelming support offset extreme Democrat opposition.
14) It was President Nixon who implemented the first affirmative action program with the Philadelphia Plan in the late 1960s. The plan required government contractors to set goals and timetables for hiring minorities. Nixon was a Republican.
Ok Ok this has been too much fun...just too damn easy.
In today's world the Democratic have learned something. Lye, point fingers, and yell racism and people seem to forget where racism grew up and really does belong. They also put uneducated mindless actors, singers, and yes, comedians like Garofalo (who have obviously failed history or choose to ignore it) on TV and Net to spout their mindless dribble. Unfortunately there are to many people out there ready to jump on the band wagon and ignore the truth. Living in Georgia I can tell you that the only true to the south racist (which or few now thank god) that I know claim to be Democratic. How could that be you may ask? After all we have a black president. They voted for Hilary.
One last thing. I love posts like the one above by jfrancis that while criticizing "Those Republican Racist" refers to blacks and hispanics as " broke-ass minorities and have zero real power"
Outstanding rebuttal, Bsmenot. Unfortunately, most liberals only know what their idols (Olbermann, Matthews, Pelosi, Reid and Teh Won) tell them to believe. Rebut with facts and they either scream "raaaacist" or try to change the subject to how evil Grenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh (Limbow? Unreal) or Sarah Palin.
ReplyDeleteMan, it would really suck to be a brain-dead lib.