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UPDATE: of course I meant 44th POTUS, not 43rd.
How can you deny the documentation? The facts? The history? After you consider
- Kneecappin'Trade
- The Healthcare Prevention Legislation
- Cash for Clunkers
OK, everyone put the blunt instruments down and listen to me. Barack Obama has been sworn in as the the 44th POTUS by the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS. That's just the way it (ahem) is. There are plenty of worthwhile questions pertaining to school records and such. Focus on those. They're legitimate. They're interesting. They're the due diligence that magically didn't happen pre-election.
Winning generals don't pick crappy ground for the battle. Even if you could show that Barack Obama was really a sweet transvestite from Trans-sexual, Transylvania, it wouldn't matter. He's sworn in. You can't get the 111th Congress to deal honestly with the 10th Amendment, and that's cut and dried. Getting all of DC to admit, in the purely-for-argument's-sake-case that birtherism is valid, that DC had completely screwed up is simply impossible. Crow on that scale is inedible. So quit the pissing into the wind, people.
I don't believe I know enough to be confident of any opinion I might have about the birth citizenship of the liar-in-chief but I do agree that there is no mechanism of removing a sitting president short of impeachment or resignation if it should be proven that he illegitimately ascended to the office. However, if it could be proven that he was actually born in Kenya then his running for a second term becomes at least somewhat problematic and his presidency would become one of the lamest of ducks on record. For those reasons, pursuing this story further is not just pissing into the wind.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Anonymous.
ReplyDeleteBrilliant and true:
ReplyDelete"You can't get the 111th Congress to deal honestly with the 10th Amendment, and that's cut and dried. Getting all of DC to admit, in the purely-for-argument's-sake-case that birtherism is valid, that DC had completely screwed up is simply impossible."
he's legit. he's a citizen. he was born in Hawaii. take the tinfoil out of your collevtive asshats. the right has driven itself into a ditch. go work on those fake moon landings.
ReplyDeleteBirtherism is just another loony-conspiracy fantasy. It puts the right on the same plane as the loony left (Trig Palin's real mother, or "fire can't melt steel").
ReplyDeleteStop focusing on stupid weirdo conspiracy theories, and just accept that Barry Obama is an ultra-left, socialist-minded president who's out to discredit American values and the enlightened capitalism (not solely an American idea) that provides progress for the whole world. Who cares where he was born, if he's already in the office and doing damage? Energy expended on foolish ideas is energy wasted, that should better be used to clean out the insidious rot in Western used-to-be-classical-liberal thinking.
"Born in Keynesia."
ReplyDeleteOk, Smitty, I'm going to let you off with a warning, this time, but watch it.
Jeez Louise, Stacy, do you have to do the left's work for them? Sure there are a few folks out there who are making claims about Obummer's birthplace, but the VAST majority of us are just including the birth certificate with all the other things wrapped in the web of secrecy. I'm an American citizen, not a subject, not a serf, and that epicene bumbler is not my friggin' king. I'm going to keep demanding that he release ALL of his stuff, birth certificate, grades, source of college funds, you name it. We are DOCUMENTERS. We are DUE DILLIGENCERS. We are doing the job the lame-stream media failed to do, and we sure as hell have nothing to apologize for.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said:
ReplyDeletehe's legit. he's a citizen. he was born in Hawaii. take the tinfoil out of your collevtive asshats. the right has driven itself into a ditch. go work on those fake moon landings.
Stogie replies:
He may be legit. However, maybe you can explain why he refuses to release the authenticated long form of his birth certificate. There is evidence that he may have been born in Kenya. Obama could refute it easily but chooses not to do so. If there is a controversy, Obama himself has fed the flames.
What is an asshat? Why would it have tinfoil in it and why would someone directing us to take the tinfoil out not use capital letters?
ReplyDeleteOn a more serious note. Obama isn't playing. Nor should we be playing anymore. Stopping him is all that matters and fighting dirty, doing everything possible to discredit and mock him is fair in this war. If he refuses to directly answer the citizenship question when he could put the allegations to rest then use it against him.
Couldn't agree more, Smitty. I'm as conservative as they come, and this birther business embarrasses the living daylights out of me. I haven't blogged about it yet to say so, mainly because I just keep hoping it's going to go away, but I'm afraid it isn't. And that is really a shame, because what conservatives do NOT need right now is an internecine fight tearing our movement apart.
ReplyDeleteI am a conservative of the old leftist conservative school- a Tom McCall Oregon born 'gonie and help to die that way Republican from way back (yes, that means I once dabbled in Marxism as well, as an anti-progress hope for status quo stagnation before we ruined what we have). We've been utterly destroyed and demonized by the likes of the birthers for the past 30 years, now it's time we got our own back.
ReplyDeleteSo I hunted down the truth- turns out Obama release his birth certificate and links to several other related documents over a year ago- and they've been examined by a litany of third-party conspiracy debunkers. Links in my post at slashdot:
http://slashdot.org/~Marxist+Hacker+42/journal/234387
I may not like Obama's progressive-based socialism any more than I liked Alan Greenspan's progress-based capitalism, but the birthers have to be idiots in the face of this level of evidence.
Yeah, but what about the joke?
ReplyDeleteThe Keynes/Kenya pun occurred to me, and I thought it positively smashing.
I liked the pun- but the fact that some birthers had already commented, I had to respond with the fact that, apparently unknown to any birthers or the main stream media, Obama's birth certificate has been online for more than a year!
ReplyDeleteEver since the resignation of Richard Nixon, the Politics of Personal Destruction has been a part of the US political scene. Maybe since the resignation of LBJ.
ReplyDeleteCode Pink and the 911 troofers hurt Bushies and McCain without the backlash hurting the Dems. The Monica and Whitewater issues hurt the Dems and President Clinton and it put Bush II into office.
That's the way it is. The birther issue is perfectly good political slander and there is no reason to avoid it.
Except for your personal integrity, of course. But we're talking about politics here.
Also, overdoing it could be dangerous. I suspect that the long-form birth certificate holds some information embarrassing to Obama's mother, and when it is released the reaction will be sympathetic to Obama. So you don't want it released, you want to complain about it not being released. Good thing I'm not cynical.