Wednesday, November 26, 2008

Yeah, right

Note the "clever" tactic:
For author Richard Rodriguez, no one is talking about the real issues behind Proposition 8.
While conservative churches are busy trying to whip up another round of culture wars over same-sex marriage, Rodriguez says the real reason for their panic lies elsewhere: the breakdown of the traditional heterosexual family and the shifting role of women in society and the church itself. As the American family fractures and the majority of women choose to live without men, churches are losing their grip on power and scapegoating gays and lesbians for their failures.
The "real issues," my foot. This argument is a transparent coalition-building gesture: "We're all gay now!" Rodriguez utterly ignores that gay militants are the aggressors in this battle of the "culture wars," that this is a fight of their choosing, and that -- far from seeking to "scapegoat" anyone -- opponents of same-sex marriage are strictly playing defense.

There are no protest marches by hetero "swingers," no boycotts by divorced moms, no petition drives by single guys. If homosexuality is an issue in 2008, it's only because gay-rights activists insist on making it an issue. Having spent the past three decades calling attention to themselves, they now complain they're getting too much attention. It's like Britney griping because the paparazzi won't leave her alone.

And don't overlook how horribly Rodriguez has suffered: He's published three memoirs celebrating his gay/Lation identity-politics narrative. Oh, what a pathetic victim . . .

7 comments:

  1. From my post on this:

    "This part about fear of women in the workforce is a canard, and is simply one more way that the left can demonize those who refuse to go along with a moral relativism that privileges new-age anything-goes licentiousness and demeans the rigors of a moral life based in tradition and historical meaning."

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  2. Last time I checked, hetero swingers can get married. Last time I checked, divorced women could get married. Last time I checked single guys can get married.

    Gay people cannot. Unless you want them to marry people of the opposite sex, which believe me, happens all the time. Ask Jim McGreevey's wife. Or Larry Craig's wife. Not very fair on them, is it?

    A single guy can adopt in Florida. The minute he says he is gay, then he cannot.

    A single guy can serve in the army. The minute he says he is gay, they cannot.

    A single guy cannot be fired because he is a single guy. It is against the law to discriminate based on marital status. But you can fire the single guy if you find out he's gay.

    You have complete and utter contempt for gay people, don't give a damn about the discrimination they face, and you do everything possible to pass laws that make it impossible for them to live their lives peacefully. You are obsessed with making sure that a gay person can't visit his partner in the hospital, can't have contracts with that person in Virginia.

    Honestly - that's pretty fucked up.

    You have no gay friends and never will. Because you are completely incapable of even trying to understand the bullshit gay people have to live with every day - bullshit like strangers micromanaging our lives.

    I don't know you. So why do you insist on making my life a living hell?

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  3. Excellent once again, R. S.! Only in the United States can a 'victim' come out ahead by writing a book, going on Oprah and crying about being a 'victim'-all the way to the bank!

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  4. There are no protest marches by hetero "swingers," no boycotts by divorced moms, no petition drives by single guys. If homosexuality is an issue in 2008, it's only because gay-rights activists insist on making it an issue. Having spent the past three decades calling attention to themselves, they now complain they're getting too much attention. It's like Britney griping because the paparazzi won't leave her alone.

    What a ridiculous claim. I wasn't aware that gays desiring the right to live lives similar to those of straights (married and single) was the same as a celebrity demanding and fawning over media attention. You don't say as much, but what people like you really want is for gays to shut up and deal with discrimination and stop getting so uppity and insisting on being treated with dignity and respect. Well, I hate to break it to you but these nonsense propositions are the best that anti-gay pundits such as yourself can pull off; the trend is and has always been towards greater equality in America, and thank God for that. Everywhere Americans are seeing gay people get married and raise kids just like anybody else, and that spells doom to the efforts of Christian moralists who think its their place to dictate what social norms apply to others.

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  5. Gay people cannot get married because a union by two people of the same sex is simply not marriage. Sorry, not a rule or nothin' just the way it is and has been since the dawn of humanity.

    Personally, I don't have any objection to people living their lives as they see fit forming whatever associations benefit themselves. But gays cannot be married any more than they can be
    battleships, hatracks or redwood trees. If you want to be referred to as such, others might comply in a spirit of tolerance but it doesn't make it so.

    The gay movement previous demanded tolerance, that worked. Demanding official approval is another thing entirely. It simply is not marriage and no tantrum will change that fact.

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  6. Divorce is condmened in the Bible every bit as much as homosexuality. There are only two legitimate biblical reasons for divorce; you can divorce a wife who is "barren" or an adulterous wife. That's it.

    It's no mystery why the churches obssess over homosexuality and hardly mention divorce. If they condemned divorce in the same strong terms they use about homosexuality, half their congregation would get up and walk out.

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  7. The problem is that the State has no business in marriage at all. Marriage is a religious sacrament, where the state license is for legal purposes like probate, divorce, proxy issues etc. If people are going to look to the state to affirm what is a religious sacrament, then the government eventually will be called on to address issues to do with the Church itself (like forcing them to marry gays). I'd rather not have the government dictate what the Church can and cannot do, and also I would not want to the Church to dictate law. That being said, the only way you could possibly outlaw gay marriage is to make homosexuality illegal. I don't think this will happen anytime soon. My only question to either side of the issue is, what's more important, justice and equality, or power?

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