tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post825334742967595440..comments2024-02-24T00:37:43.087-05:00Comments on The Other McCain: Prince Harry the Hater?Robert Stacy McCainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03084541621503669804noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-79124493602086061732009-01-14T10:44:00.000-05:002009-01-14T10:44:00.000-05:00Well, anonymous, nigger comes from the word negro,...Well, anonymous, nigger comes from the word negro, which just means black, and black people call themselves black, so wouldn't they be proud to be called a nigger by a bunch of white people?<BR/><BR/>Or do you now realize the stupidity of that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-91336073283521488642009-01-13T20:52:00.000-05:002009-01-13T20:52:00.000-05:00does anybody what Paki mean? Paki means, The clean...does anybody what Paki mean? Paki means, The clean. Pakistan means the land of Clean people. so calling Pakistani a Paki is something which a pakistani should be proud of. As i would be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-42817675475115683922009-01-13T13:07:00.000-05:002009-01-13T13:07:00.000-05:00At least the Prince wasn't hiding behind some head...At least the Prince wasn't hiding behind some headscarf like those truley bigoted anti-Israel protestors.Tatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13271863768689193805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-67044379811328178572009-01-12T16:40:00.000-05:002009-01-12T16:40:00.000-05:00"If Mark Powell had planted a recorder between our..."If Mark Powell had planted a recorder between our desks . . ."<BR/><BR/>Then we'd BOTH be unemployed . . . er, I mean, <I>freelancing</I>. LOL!Robert Stacy McCainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03084541621503669804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-17041138860110756122009-01-12T16:29:00.000-05:002009-01-12T16:29:00.000-05:00Anonymous writes:"Paki" was a term of abuse popula...Anonymous writes:<BR/><BR/><I>"Paki" was a term of abuse popularised in the nineteen seventies by fascist groups such as the National Front in phrases such as "Paki Go Home".</I><BR/><BR/>Actually, the term's popular British usage dates back much further ... to the 1940s, i.e., as long as Pakistan has been a country. Its use by anti-immigration groups long predates the National Front, e.g. Enoch Powell in 1967-68, and was grammatically neutral, i.e., "Paki" was already a popular term and merely inserted into an accurate description of the desired policy, i.e., repatriation. By the early-1970s, "Paki" was also (at least) Glaswegian shorthand for a small one-room, mom-and-pop grocery store, which by that team were mostly run by Asians (hence the back formation from a term with extant currency).<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>if you were to walk through Brick Lane in London shouting "Paki" at people you walked past... well, you might not get to the end of the street.</I><BR/><BR/>Agreed ... but an outsider yelling a term in the street at strangers simply is not the same social context as Army guys busting each other's balls. The point of Stacy's whole column is precisely that ... it's being absurd to derive anything from this tape about Prince Harry generally from this incident, which wouldn't exclude its being reasonable to infer something bad about him if Harry were to say "Paki" while some of his Asian subjects or the President of India were being introduced to him.<BR/><BR/>By discounting social context ... or more accurately making a comparison based on an entirely different social context that changes all the relevant facts ... your view ultimately has to become that words have magical or inherent-natural qualities that social context and particular usage can't offset. Making it rather interesting to note that you yourself use the word "Paki" three times in your note and "nigger" once. Hmmmm ......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-41213913898679462142009-01-12T16:06:00.000-05:002009-01-12T16:06:00.000-05:00Sorry for the remark in the thread below ... I did...Sorry for the remark in the thread below ... I didn't read the Pajamas column in time. And you've pretty much hit the nail on the head.<BR/><BR/>This video is just soldiers cursing up a blue storm or repeating all the derogatory names they give one another (including "Paki" ... its being a derogatory term, after all).<BR/><BR/>What's changed is not primarily ethnic-sensitivity rules (which have always existed, however changed in detail), but the YouTube and Facebookization of culture, which means "among-friends" moments that can only be understood among friends are now exposed to strangers. And such moments never look good ... oh, if there had been a secret camera or Mark Powell had planted a recorder between our desks ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-56755775874875996972009-01-12T10:33:00.000-05:002009-01-12T10:33:00.000-05:00The whole business is much ado about very little. ...The whole business is much ado about very little. Anyone who has been in the military would be familiar with that sort of non-politically-correct banter and think little of it. The fact that he is Prince of Wales means he should have a bit better judgment than to be doing the video think, but what he said isn't particularly outrageous compared to what goes on daily in most military units not on parade.Ed Rasimushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13667325554289268659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-59533213551329952902009-01-12T08:47:00.000-05:002009-01-12T08:47:00.000-05:00The 'Ginger' comment was pretty funny..along with ...The 'Ginger' comment was pretty funny..<BR/><BR/>along with the quick reply, 'yes, they are'..<BR/><BR/>it's a mountain out of a molehill..<BR/><BR/>Third in line of succession for the Presidency still has bedsheets hanging in his closet... but Prince Harry saying 'paki'<BR/>faux outrage ensues..Dave Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13779153708960447630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-62498578915435353342009-01-12T07:27:00.000-05:002009-01-12T07:27:00.000-05:00The interesting thing is that PAKistan is an acron...The interesting thing is that PAKistan is an acronym made up in 1934.The Right Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02000916651068780486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-70415965411007311622009-01-12T06:43:00.000-05:002009-01-12T06:43:00.000-05:00"Paki" was a term of abuse popularised in the nine..."Paki" was a term of abuse popularised in the nineteen seventies by fascist groups such as the National Front in phrases such as "Paki Go Home". It is generally used interchangably regarding anyone from India, Pakistani or Bangladesh. It is intended in a similar form as "nigger".<BR/><BR/>And while indeed some groups reclaim terms of abuse, if you were to walk through Brick Lane in London shouting "Paki" at people you walked past... well, you might not get to the end of the street.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com