tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post7890140146045966740..comments2024-02-24T00:37:43.087-05:00Comments on The Other McCain: Have You Made Your Tea Party Plans?Robert Stacy McCainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03084541621503669804noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-29807940827289545422009-04-01T21:49:00.000-04:002009-04-01T21:49:00.000-04:00I was thinking more like scotch instead of tea. I ...I was thinking more like scotch instead of tea. I play the drums, that is why I asked. George had the right temperament, but I always thought he was a bit of a maneuverer. Still, men like him, Jefferson, Jackson, and a few others do not exist in todays politics. We have attracted the type that sell fairy tales. Car Salesman. I love it. So which do you prefer, the 4 Square, the Ben Franklin, the Higher Authority....Thanks Smitty.The Right Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02000916651068780486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-1636379576734210822009-04-01T21:40:00.000-04:002009-04-01T21:40:00.000-04:00Oh, I'm all for the proper leader, someone of impe...Oh, I'm all for the proper leader, someone of impeccable character who is not a demagogue.<BR/>But the George Washington type, who wins the war and then repairs to his private property and has to be coaxed to sit as the first President, is a rare bird.<BR/>So it's good to let the Tea brew a bit, lest we replace one car salesman with another.<BR/>--<BR/>Yes, that was me on a drum kit, though my real instrument is a highland pipe.smitty1ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559464300318848169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-42649954628663997102009-04-01T21:17:00.000-04:002009-04-01T21:17:00.000-04:00Smitty:I kind of liked Samuel Adams: Father of the...Smitty:<BR/>I kind of liked Samuel Adams: Father of the American Revolution by Mark Puls. You can call him a rabble rouser, but without him, I don't things would have reached critical mass. What would give me pause for fear is if things swung too much the other way and we get some reactionary despot in reaction to the socialism. I am not ready for that too. I just think it's going to take more than a few symbolic tea parties to get critical mass in our times, and certainly more than "we surround them". If we could find someone with the right combination of Thomas Jefferson (Liberty and reason), Sam Adams (agitation as you call it, I call it spark) and Theodore Roosevelt (the balls to jump in), I think we'd do well. BTW, are you playing drums in that picture?The Right Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02000916651068780486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-55675975352296293912009-04-01T20:27:00.000-04:002009-04-01T20:27:00.000-04:00@The Right Guy:My main source of Sam Adams knowled...@The Right Guy:<BR/>My main source of Sam Adams knowledge is <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Glorious-Cause-American-Revolution-1763-1789/dp/0195162471" REL="nofollow">The Glorious Cause</A>. Wikipedia offers a rather guarded bit:<BR/><I>Samuel Adams is a controversial figure in American history. Accounts written in the 19th century praised him as someone who had been steering his fellow colonists towards American independence long before the outbreak of the Revolutionary War. This view gave way to negative assessments of Adams in the first half of the 20th century, in which he was portrayed as a master of propaganda who provoked mob violence to achieve his goals. Both of these interpretations have been challenged by some modern scholars, who argue that these traditional depictions of Adams are myths contradicted by the historical record.</I><BR/>The Glorious Cause sort of leaned on the negative side of this argument.<BR/>The real point of any of the protests is communication. I'm nowhere near ready to engage in Sam Adams-style agitation. Possibly Americans should be at this point, but I'm not about to support such.smitty1ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559464300318848169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-65522884092905116502009-04-01T08:22:00.000-04:002009-04-01T08:22:00.000-04:00Smitty:Look to Sam Adams for inspiration. He was t...Smitty:<BR/>Look to Sam Adams for inspiration. He was the father of the American Revolution. As far as alternatives, it depends on how far down the road this socialist experiment goes. Did the founding fathers always stick to "constitutional. and legal" means? Initially yes, eventually no. Legally, I can't endorse violence...Just as Sam et al walked the fine line. At some point, if it gets bad enough, I'll jump in. Read Eric Hoffer's True Believer... Most of these symbolic acts and movements are used to assuage the roiling masses as opposed to creating any real change. It could be a mis-direction, and honestly, I don't think anyone puts anything on the line with symbolic acts. Were the original perpetrators of the tea party doing a symbolic act? No, they weren't. Now it is time for every to go back to their Play Stations and HD TVs, drinking Coors Light. No one, including myself, is putting anything on the line like those in the Civil Rights Movement, let alone like the signers of the Declaration of Independence. So my question for you is, what do you want to accomplish?The Right Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02000916651068780486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-41714146211069388332009-04-01T05:50:00.000-04:002009-04-01T05:50:00.000-04:00@The Right Guy:What other Constitutional, legal, a...@The Right Guy:<BR/>What other Constitutional, legal, and acceptable alternative can you offer?<BR/>Where would you start?<BR/>What are your personal plans to _do something_?smitty1ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559464300318848169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-44193328831161727562009-03-31T22:52:00.000-04:002009-03-31T22:52:00.000-04:00What symbolic non-sense made to assuage the roiled...What symbolic non-sense made to assuage the roiled masses. Whatever happened to our lives, our fortunes, our sacred honor? People today only know how imitate, but not act.The Right Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02000916651068780486noreply@blogger.com