tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post8386726711820321127..comments2024-02-24T00:37:43.087-05:00Comments on The Other McCain: Can't all conservatives at least agree that Glenn Beck is not the enemy?Robert Stacy McCainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03084541621503669804noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-34022607507708169752009-09-29T22:12:42.869-04:002009-09-29T22:12:42.869-04:00Jesus had John...the Apostle of Love, and Peter wh...Jesus had John...the Apostle of Love, and Peter who might remind some people of Beck in that Peter at one time was prone to wild swings, and Paul who was born of the best family and had a world-class education and could perhaps bear some comparison to Levin as both wrote with great logic. If it worked for Jesus, then may I suggest it might work for us too?<br /><br />As to Creationism, um, 89% of Americans are some form of Creationist. About 50% <br />are YECs. And its not that the dumb populists are YEC's and the smart people are Darwinists. Its more like the YEC's ignore the pretentious twits who've been brainwashed into thinking they're smart if they agree with illogic. Its rather similar to other politics in that way. Its not that we conservatives mind elites, its that we mind such arrogant mediocrities proclaiming their elite status.<br /><br />And then like other politics, YEC's and conservatives, have genuine elites who can and do trash the 'best' the liberal Darwinist has to offer. Like someone said 'with half my brain tied behind my back'. Or as Thomas Aquineas said that it was too easy to prove the existence of God if you allowed that the Universe had a beginning.<br /><br />TennwriterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-12280664849551624262009-09-23T22:21:11.786-04:002009-09-23T22:21:11.786-04:00Hey McCain (the GOOD McCain) that was a fantastic ...Hey McCain (the GOOD McCain) that was a fantastic blog post. I always enjoy your writings, and I'm glad you're fighting the good fight. I also wanted to say that I'm a Mark Levin fan but am really disappointed in his OVER-reaction to Beck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-84382725046866537032009-09-23T20:29:07.793-04:002009-09-23T20:29:07.793-04:00Quoted from and linked to at:
WIELDING A 2x4Quoted from and linked to at:<br /><a href="http://www.thecampofthesaints.com/2009.09.20_arch.html#1253731406495" rel="nofollow">WIELDING A 2x4</a>Bob Belvederehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17220595844172546069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-24461182541894716172009-09-23T15:19:02.274-04:002009-09-23T15:19:02.274-04:00Looks like us Democrats have successfully inserted...Looks like us Democrats have successfully inserted the Beckworm into one ear. Should be interesting to watch as it burrows its way through toward the other ear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-69621313951829464812009-09-23T11:47:55.443-04:002009-09-23T11:47:55.443-04:00The funny thing with Mr. Straightjacket Johnson is...The funny thing with Mr. Straightjacket Johnson is that he was all "boo hoo" about the disdain conservatives have for Colin Powell, Arlen Spectre, and all the other traitors who got in bed with the statist juggernaut. We should not exclude THEM! Oh, NO! DO NOT WANT! But all he does nowadays is bitch-n-moan about somebody was as the same event as somebody else who was at another event with somebody else who was at a rally with a known white supremacist (and I know they're a white supremacist because they object to REPARATIONS!), and that connection makes them (and apparently all actual conservatives) RAAACISTS!!! But don't call any democrats racist, including, you know: actual out-and-out racists.Mick McMIcknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-13038720782365503482009-09-23T10:34:28.650-04:002009-09-23T10:34:28.650-04:00Glenn Beck is our 'Maximus.' He is fighti...Glenn Beck is our 'Maximus.' He is fighting the establishment in the arena of public media. We have a short time to support him and recognize where his right and fill in behind him. For too long the Republicans have abdicated the culture to the left. The communists how came to the US in the 20s' found fertile ground in the morass of Dewey and Wilson. Republicans have been fighting with two arms tied and blindfolded ever since. We must include all in our argument if we are to succeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-38159644183019778612009-09-23T09:00:47.456-04:002009-09-23T09:00:47.456-04:00The fundamental problem with this debate is that p...The fundamental problem with this debate is that people are trying to anoint an official spokesman for a movement and impose a hierarchy. Don't. Let individuals speak their mind, tolerate many voices, and respect their point of view. Let many flowers bloom, even if you don't like the colors.Liberty Loverhttp://libertylover.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-40468540718266467982009-09-23T08:34:50.026-04:002009-09-23T08:34:50.026-04:00You can't build a successful movement by a pro...<i>You can't build a successful movement by a process of subtraction. The urge-to-purge approach to coalition politics simply doesn't work, which is why winners avoid it.</i><br /><br />That sums it up. If you're happy with the idea being one of the (long forgotten) groups that have lost republics throughout the world and throughout history, keep up the friendly fire. If you truly believe we are in a war for Liberty, keep your rounds down range until we've won.Salt Lickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00615284283443438158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-74467829877294303912009-09-23T08:23:13.817-04:002009-09-23T08:23:13.817-04:00Despite any and all faults noted above, Beck is ra...Despite any and all faults noted above, Beck is rallying people.I am investing real anger/ emotion in this cause. Levin sounds petty and jealous and he's off the air in my house.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-60783207066054114202009-09-23T07:29:08.744-04:002009-09-23T07:29:08.744-04:00FRUM et al = Idiot, loser, useless
- acts as the ...FRUM et al = Idiot, loser, useless <br />- acts as the agent for a worthless Republican party<br />- wants conservative to be Democrate-light version<br />- cannot be trusted<br /><br />BECK/LIMBAUGH: Smart, winners, fighters<br />- act for America<br />- ask the right questions<br />- give truthful answers - can be trusted<br /><br />Now, who should I choose to listen to and trust my welfare?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-34716557112696369402009-09-23T05:08:27.026-04:002009-09-23T05:08:27.026-04:00No one not one soul on our side rises to the level...No one not one soul on our side rises to the level of Kos and yet EVERY DAMN ONE of the Democrat candidates headed to their convention. Republicans nauseate me with their holier than thou attitude about what it takes to WIN. We are either go to fight on all fronts to end this attack on our liberty together or we or going to hand this country over to tyranny. Levin whom I love and Scarburough whom I don't going after a guy who has BROKEN two major stories along with Breitbart. There is a reason Breitbart went to Glenn first and that is because O'Reilly is too haughty to take on these slime stories until they are HUGE! So if Levin and assorted snots on the RIGHT want to fight internally they should know they have lost the battle!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-67723602967094136322009-09-23T03:48:34.891-04:002009-09-23T03:48:34.891-04:00As a Democrat, my favorite Republicans are Glenn B...As a Democrat, my favorite Republicans are Glenn Beck, Mitt Romney, Rush Limbaugh, and Sarah Palin. Please put them out front and center as often as you can.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-48452527962670217142009-09-23T01:09:54.857-04:002009-09-23T01:09:54.857-04:00Look, Levin is a CONSERVATIVE. Beck is a conservat...Look, Levin is a CONSERVATIVE. Beck is a conservative on the road to becoming a Libertarian.<br /><br />I capitalized Conservative because, there is no question, Levin is a Conservative. Beck, not so much.<br /><br />But, I like them both.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-1984127321219276162009-09-23T01:04:01.685-04:002009-09-23T01:04:01.685-04:00The very best thing McCain ever did may have been ...The very best thing McCain ever did may have been a mistake. He picked Palin. <br /><br />Sarah has done more to unite libertarian Republicans and cultural conservatives than any other candidate out there or that I could imagine. She governed as a libertarian and lived her life as a conservative. We could use a few thousand more like her in politics.<br /><br />Count me as a part of the Palin Army. Since about 3 femtoseconds after she was chosen. I had already blogged her about a week or two before she was picked so I knew who she was.M. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-87765335630488764432009-09-23T01:01:34.510-04:002009-09-23T01:01:34.510-04:00Yes, thanks to Duverger we're a two-party syst...Yes, thanks to Duverger we're a two-party system. But the trick isn't to create a new third party, but to create a new first or second party. This could be accomplished by not creating another conservative party, but a liberal capitalist party based on social liberty, free market economics, and a Jacksonian foreign policy and national defense. Such a party could conceivably poach 2/3rds of the GOP, one third of the Democrats and most political independents. The trick isn't just to replace the Republicans, but suck all the grownups out of the Democratic Party as well. <br /><br />And replacing "our one man one vote" system with a "one vote per candidate" approval voting system would help us with the Duverger thing. We'd still have a two party system, but we'd lose the "same two parties forever" system we have now.peter jacksonhttp://www.liberalcapitalist.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-49799931329043870582009-09-23T00:48:12.698-04:002009-09-23T00:48:12.698-04:00America is not occupying any country. When asked t...America is not occupying any country. When asked to leave we do. Ask the Philippines. Ask Saudi Arabia. Hell ask France.<br /><br />American forces stationed around the world provide a measure of stability. I'll worry about American Imperialism when we are asked to leave and don't.<br /><br />Maybe Saudi Arabia waited too long to ask us to leave. Their problem - not ours.M. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-83382439654987714612009-09-23T00:30:22.542-04:002009-09-23T00:30:22.542-04:00There is not a lot of love lost between me and cul...There is not a lot of love lost between me and cultural conservatives. I consider a lot of them another variation of the statist crowd. But I will have their six when it comes to fighting out of control spending. Of course if they would join me in the fight against Drug Prohibition spending and the prison industrial complex (many do) it would be even better.<br /><br />Beck? Love him on domestic policy. And some of his foreign policy points are not too bad either. <br /><br />I'm a libertarian Republican. A proud member of the <b>Leave Us Alone Coalition</b>.M. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-84945503353999621472009-09-23T00:17:21.299-04:002009-09-23T00:17:21.299-04:00Ok, Beck is cringe-worthy sometimes.
But he does...Ok, Beck is cringe-worthy sometimes. <br /><br />But he does a very good job of informing us. Today he had that video of the anti-consumption woman. I've never seen that before. That was a seriously dangerous vid to be showing to children. <br /><br />He manages to get out the dirty little secrets of the Left Wing that others are afraid to touch. R's can't seem to bring themselves to be as brave or as informed as Beck. <br /><br />Do I wish for a better, more polished, person? yeah...but we need this infoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-9387546841842017652009-09-23T00:06:14.352-04:002009-09-23T00:06:14.352-04:00Levin isn't worried about purity, he's try...Levin isn't worried about purity, he's trying,I think to warn his listeners. That's why he talks about how he came to his beliefs and that he's held them for a long time. He recognizes that there are many flavors of conservative--that's how his book starts.<br />I don't know what Mark thinks, but I fear that Glenn is a charismatic mole, put in place to Pied Piper-like lead a large group of voters, who would likely vote Republican, away to a third pary. <br />The Dems win; we are in thrall. <br />It's a brilliant psy-ops scam many years in the making. Don't you find it curious, all the media attention he gets? <br />If this scenario is likely what strategy do you suggest?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-16485585155409886652009-09-22T23:41:34.497-04:002009-09-22T23:41:34.497-04:00I agree that Glenn Beck is not the enemy. It's...I agree that Glenn Beck is not the enemy. It's painfully obvious that conservatives have no organized strategy. Things worked better back in the days of Reagan's 11th Commandment.<br /><br />There is no purpose served in rehashing the last election. Clearly, the Republicans had no chance, but they could have done somewhat better than the unmitigated disaster that they brought upon themselves. I'm waiting to see if they are going to screw up 2010 and 2012 as well.<br /><br />Frankly, the Republicans should thank their lucky stars that they lost in 2008 -- had they won, McCain would be the new Hoover; it's better to let Obama be the new Hoover. <br /><br />They have so many pluses right now that it would take a miracle for them to lose the next two elections. Of course, they should never have lost the 1996 election either, but they were outfoxed by a master politician and basically gave up before they started, by nominating a sympathy candidate.<br /><br />A couple of tips: 1) Let the Democrats dig their own grave; 2) nominate candidates who do not have a long list of enemies within the base -- there are hundreds, if not thousands, of them.<br /><br />Nobody should worry about the health care debate; the Obama changes aren't scheduled to start until 2013, which leaves a lot of time to undo whatever disaster the Democrats try to impose upon a free people. Whatever can be done can also be undone -- it would be nice if it could be undone quickly, rather than waiting a couple of generations. I doubt that either the conservatives or the public in general has that much patience or fortitude.<br /><br />By the way, if the Republicans find themselves in the happy position of being able to undo Obamacare and Cap/Trade, they might also be able to reform Social Security and Medicare. Of course, they will have to behave like adults to get that far.<br /><br />If you want another McCain or Dole, keep throwing your votes away on hapless third parties. That's a pretty strong indication that you rank your ego above the public interest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-89869331626263299302009-09-22T23:36:14.001-04:002009-09-22T23:36:14.001-04:00Uh, McCain managed to stumble across the finish li...Uh, McCain managed to stumble across the finish line after the unfortunate fratricide of too many Repub candidates with substantial but bit decisive support... and probably a dose of Machiavellian support from the MSM.<br /><br />I held my nose and voted for him in the general, convinced Obama would be disastrous. FWIW I was way out front in saying that Hillary would be better than Obama (more left than Bill but much less than Obama, and like Bill enough of a triangulator to possibly work with) when most Repubs couldn't see past their visceral dislike of her to the greater danger.<br /><br />[I even, before the general, predicted a Prez Obama's critics would be smeared as racists -- and basically called a racist just for pointing it out!]<br /><br />I was not one of those willing to stay home and not vote for McCain out of purity, but now that we are here in this moment of danger, Obama's overreach *does* present an opportunity for conservatives and libertarians to wake up the somnolent middle -- if the damned Republican establishment would get out of the way if they won't lead.<br /><br />I recently told an RNC fundraiser that they weren't getting another dime from me until they figured out what they were *for*, rather than just being "not Obama".newscapernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-37728230199135827562009-09-22T23:29:25.467-04:002009-09-22T23:29:25.467-04:00Glenn now calls his Friday show "Ask Glenn An...Glenn now calls his Friday show "Ask Glenn Anything" instead of "Closed Line Friday" perhaps to appease Rush. And "Closed Line Friday" was a parody, not a steal. I'm not really surprised at Levin's outburst; he has been grumbling about Glenn without mentioning him for some time now. Glenn mentioned last week on the radio he had nothing against other talk show hosts, including Levin, because they focus on different issues than he does. RSM is right: Glenn is not the enemy, out-of-control government spending and loss of freedom is. I hope, someday, Mark Levin will realize this.Paper Pusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112866521536400102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-58562032488835416212009-09-22T23:28:11.080-04:002009-09-22T23:28:11.080-04:00The fact that Beck would actually say Obama was be...The fact that Beck would actually say Obama was better than McCain as president is and of itself stupid, ridiculous, irresponsible and insane.<br /><br />Besides that, what is this about purging? Beck purges, he has made it plain that if he can run the show, he wants to wreck it.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-85853702884925696132009-09-22T23:15:27.782-04:002009-09-22T23:15:27.782-04:00"The fact that John McCain thought he'd b..."The fact that John McCain thought he'd be a better Republican presidential candidate than Mitt Romney -- "<br /><br />Uh, no. Republicans thought he'd be a better candidate than Romney, hence his selection in the primaries via Republican voters.<br />Can you just stop making things up!?!Young 4-Eyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04159195318322896154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-88675457180859887492009-09-22T23:07:57.017-04:002009-09-22T23:07:57.017-04:00Thanks for the tip, Anonymous.
You're most wel...<i>Thanks for the tip, Anonymous.</i><br />You're most welcome, Robert.<br /><br /><br />For an update to your exit question:<br /><br /><i>Exit question: How long before he denounces Instapundit as a "white supremacist blogger"?</i><br /><br />Uhhh, right about now:<br /><br /><i><br />438 Charles Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:45:37pm replyquote <br /><br /> * 2<br /> * down<br /> * up<br /> * report<br /><br />Instapundit links to the white supremacist:<br /><br />STACY MCCAIN: Can’t All Conservatives At Least Agree That Glenn Beck Is Not The Enemy?<br /><br /><br />454 freetoken Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:50:50pm replyquote <br /><br /> * 0<br /> * down<br /> * up<br /> * report<br /><br />re: #452 Killgore Trout<br /><br />Reynolds has a history:<br /><br />Glenn Reynolds promotes book authored by neo-Confederate propagandist.<br /></i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com