tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post647073644411982025..comments2024-02-24T00:37:43.087-05:00Comments on The Other McCain: News of the death of newspapersRobert Stacy McCainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03084541621503669804noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-34559219004040676852009-03-20T17:13:00.000-04:002009-03-20T17:13:00.000-04:00Ah come on. Cut the kid some slack. Clearly it w...Ah come on. Cut the kid some slack. Clearly it was satirical. Masterfully done. The youngster has a promising career ahead working for the Onion. Or the NYT. Same thing really, just a different masthead.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01892213227811281098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-29862451507853926842009-03-20T16:44:00.000-04:002009-03-20T16:44:00.000-04:00But he wants to Make A Difference, so it's all goo...But he wants to Make A Difference, so it's all good.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-44375281583639421282009-03-20T16:18:00.000-04:002009-03-20T16:18:00.000-04:00Someone send this poor soul a copy of Elements of ...Someone send this poor soul a copy of Elements of Style. Sorry if this comment is repeated.RR Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00225650265878142310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-31469556826045625282009-03-20T16:08:00.000-04:002009-03-20T16:08:00.000-04:00March 19, 2009: Lexington (Kentucky) Herald-Leade...March 19, 2009: Lexington (Kentucky) Herald-Leader cuts 14 jobs, implements pay cuts, one week furlough for everyone.<BR/>http://www.kentucky.com/211/story/730956.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-57575744101150732202009-03-20T15:24:00.000-04:002009-03-20T15:24:00.000-04:00Split infinitive: "to properly write". Stupid unfo...Split infinitive: "to properly write". Stupid unforced error. Very turgid prose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-35933652224667206702009-03-20T14:24:00.000-04:002009-03-20T14:24:00.000-04:00One wonders what makes the Hornet's front page, Le...One wonders what makes the Hornet's front page, Let's see:<BR/><BR/>"Downtown area hosts teacher-led protest". Surprise, surprise teachers want to get paid more for less work.<BR/><BR/>"Hornets rebound, swarm Cougars". Sports are always ok.<BR/><BR/>"Swinging into LA". Now we get into the red meat of journalism. A story about...... Disk Jockeys.<BR/><BR/>and finally,<BR/><BR/>"Trendsetters a cut above the rest". How cosmetology is changing lives.<BR/><BR/>There is no possible way a blog could compete with this content written by "legitimate writers".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-71010556146962906832009-03-20T14:07:00.000-04:002009-03-20T14:07:00.000-04:00"Trying to stay informed in a newspaperless world ..."Trying to stay informed in a newspaperless world would be an arduous, time consuming task, of scanning through countless [rags] to find unbiased, factual news."<BR/><BR/>But we already do just that with the NYTs and WaPo.Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-56116632970671742512009-03-20T13:53:00.000-04:002009-03-20T13:53:00.000-04:00Interesting that this morning the estimable Nichol...Interesting that this morning the estimable Nicholas Kristof of the NY Times had a column publishing almost exactly the same sentiments as Cal State Fullerton sage...<BR/><BR/>Nah, not Cal State Fullerton (the Titans), Fullerton College, aka Fullerton Junior College, FJC.<BR/><BR/>Go Hornets! Usually.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-8923930873201349372009-03-20T13:21:00.000-04:002009-03-20T13:21:00.000-04:00Now look here McCain, I think you pretty well prov...Now look here McCain, I think you pretty well prove the youngster's point. A real journalist would have followed the clues and used them to smear the editorial writer by name based on a couple of unprovable assumptions. For example, there's another Hornet opinion column with the same awkward use of "less" as in "less writers". See "Merit Pay for teachers near impossible".<BR/>Combine that with the fact that this same author is the editor of the Hornet's opinion page and you've got a hit piece worthy of Sixty Minutes. Or at least the Grammar Police version of same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-60491655722227848632009-03-20T12:56:00.000-04:002009-03-20T12:56:00.000-04:00The letter sure sounds like the poorly remembered ...The letter sure sounds like the poorly remembered content of a lecture by a liberal journalism instructor.<BR/><BR/>Give the kid a few years to start learning and looking on his own.<BR/><BR/>And, please, let newspapers take care of the fundamental issues sinking them, and stop blaming those not making the same mistakes.Brad K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18378344866487206569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-67408608252463826442009-03-20T12:30:00.000-04:002009-03-20T12:30:00.000-04:00This student's career in journalism is all but cer...This student's career in journalism is all but certain. However, in the arena of ideas that bloggers take pride in, not so certain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-89532134516814725452009-03-20T12:11:00.000-04:002009-03-20T12:11:00.000-04:00You wrote:"If you ever learn "how to properly writ...You wrote:<BR/><BR/>"If you ever learn "how to properly write a concise, well-thought out article," be sure and let us know."<BR/><BR/>Surely you meant to write <BR/><BR/>"... be sure <B>to</B> let us know."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-71434588886807988142009-03-20T11:47:00.000-04:002009-03-20T11:47:00.000-04:00My favorite part:He has a problem with inconcise, ...My favorite part:<BR/>He has a problem with inconcise, poorly thought out pieces, professing a preference for the work of professional journalists, but leads that very sentence off with an admission that he can't tell the two apart. It's impossible!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-1639854579698796142009-03-20T11:38:00.000-04:002009-03-20T11:38:00.000-04:00From my blog today: With a pulse on the main strea...From my blog today: <BR/>With a pulse on the main stream media for balance, I rely heavily on my conservative, digital news sources for up to the minute coverage on current events. So often I feel plugged into a small, inner circle of breaking news because liberal media buries chooses not to report so many things that conservatives find significant and news worthy. Because conservative news sources are increasingly prevalent and pervasive, big media maintains their relevancy with obligatory reporting, which by then, is old news.KF Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06669210883227997458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-54759718299713504032009-03-20T11:33:00.000-04:002009-03-20T11:33:00.000-04:00Well, if I were the editor . . .Original:"Many blo...Well, if I were the editor . . .<BR/><BR/>Original:<BR/>"Many bloggers also have the tendency of ignoring facts to support their own agendas, effectively eliminating unbiased journalism and creating a plethora of questions regarding ethics. If this trend of growing bloggers continues, newspapers may become glorified blogs themselves. Trying to stay informed in a newspaperless world would be an arduous, time consuming task, of scanning through countless blogs to find unbiased, factual news."<BR/><BR/>My version:<BR/>"Also, bloggers tend to ignore facts that challenge their agendas. In a world without the unbiased journalism of newspapers, trying to stay informed would require hours of scanning through countless blogs to assemble a full view of the news."<BR/><BR/>Of course, being uneducated in journalism (indeed, I'm a high school dropout), I don't know how to write concisely.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05138730966226244399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-49682890922989605782009-03-20T11:24:00.000-04:002009-03-20T11:24:00.000-04:00"this trend of growing bloggers"South Beach helps....<I>"this trend of growing bloggers"</I><BR/><BR/>South Beach helps.Charlie Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586506407851173416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-82434788078987337922009-03-20T11:23:00.000-04:002009-03-20T11:23:00.000-04:00Buggy Whip Producers in Tizzy!Buggy Whip Producers in Tizzy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-74703533594135619742009-03-20T11:21:00.000-04:002009-03-20T11:21:00.000-04:00As a once-and-former newspaper editor (now at a re...As a once-and-former newspaper editor (now at a real job) and sometime blogger, I would also have pointed out that he meant "determine," not "decipher" (though some blogs, to be fair, may as well be written in code, so indecipherable are they).<BR/><BR/>Also, when using a phrase as an adjective, the phrase should be hyphenated: a "well-thought-out" article, not - as Mr. Awesome wrote - an "out" article that is "well-thought."<BR/><BR/>Also, it's "the tendency TO ignore facts," the "of ignoring," and as been pointed out, the trend of "growing bloggers" (in test tubes?). <BR/><BR/>I weep for the future of journalism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-42956782979502789772009-03-20T11:19:00.000-04:002009-03-20T11:19:00.000-04:00This is the line that leaped out at me:"It is impo...This is the line that leaped out at me:<BR/><BR/>"It is impossible to decipher whether or not a blog is being posted by legitimate writers, who have been educated in journalism, or the average Joe, who does not know how to properly write a concise, well-thought out article."<BR/><BR/>Hmm, if its "impossible" to tell the work of a journalist from the work of an amateur, then perhaps the value of a journalism degree is just a wee bit inflated? Maybe? Maybe?Dark Edenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00763832753807649560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-69105615387441141702009-03-20T11:14:00.000-04:002009-03-20T11:14:00.000-04:00"Trying to stay informed in a newspaperless world ..."Trying to stay informed in a newspaperless world would be an arduous, time consuming task, of scanning through countless blogs to find unbiased, factual news."<BR/><BR/>How about "will be an arduous task" instead? And Dude, back, away, from, the, commas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-8816164211936470382009-03-20T11:07:00.001-04:002009-03-20T11:07:00.001-04:00Dead-tree newspapers don't have these kinds of pro...Dead-tree newspapers don't have these kinds of problems. You can count on them to uphold the highest standards of unbiased reporting, in the tradition of Walter Duranty and Jayson Blair.<BR/><BR/>-jcrjcrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07013638886217607372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-27196008540920687472009-03-20T11:07:00.000-04:002009-03-20T11:07:00.000-04:00FYI, the Twitter site called Themediaisdying is a ...FYI, the Twitter site called Themediaisdying is a great compendium of news outlets that are downsizing or closing. (I have no affiliation with it except as a follower.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-27962456558471941902009-03-20T11:06:00.000-04:002009-03-20T11:06:00.000-04:00I'm here as part of the Instalanche. Good article....I'm here as part of the Instalanche. <BR/><BR/>Good article. <BR/><BR/>Interesting that this morning the estimable Nicholas Kristof of the NY Times had a column publishing almost exactly the same sentiments as Cal State Fullerton sage. (Sorry -- I read it in the dead tree edition, and don't know where it is on the net.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-82312814626385310382009-03-20T11:04:00.000-04:002009-03-20T11:04:00.000-04:00TO: McCain, et al.RE: You Left Out......the death ...TO: McCain, et al.<BR/>RE: You Left Out...<BR/><BR/>...the death of the Denver Rocky Mountain News. Last issue published 27 Feb 2009. The day of the Denver Tea Party.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Chuck(le)Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-4678978894399056032009-03-20T11:00:00.000-04:002009-03-20T11:00:00.000-04:00Everyone ignore that fellow Victor, who is just an...Everyone ignore that fellow Victor, who is <A HREF="http://vjmorton.wordpress.com/" REL="nofollow"><B>just another damned blogger</B></A> and doesn't know anything about "real journalistic standards," as I have been trying to tell him fror years.Robert Stacy McCainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03084541621503669804noreply@blogger.com