tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post4529192351026828596..comments2024-02-24T00:37:43.087-05:00Comments on The Other McCain: Is 'Liberal Idiot' Redundant?Robert Stacy McCainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03084541621503669804noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-79944870575038932032009-09-10T04:45:13.872-04:002009-09-10T04:45:13.872-04:00You've been exposed to Balloon Juice. I'm ...You've been exposed to Balloon Juice. I'm very sorry.Jim Treacherhttp://jimtreacher.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-2348821025265209992009-09-09T18:08:51.010-04:002009-09-09T18:08:51.010-04:00DarkGravity said...
I’m still trying to figure ou...DarkGravity said...<br /><br /><i>I’m still trying to figure out how those of us who oppose a welfare state are geared towards authoritarian systems.</i><br /><br />The "you" in question being Republicans, I'm guessing?<br /><br />I'm thinking the stereotype of your guys being all authoritarians comes from all the "Either you're with us, or you're with THE TERRORISTS" and "Dissent is TREASON" folderol us filthy peaceniks had to endure after 9/11. Plus that whole "Torture is GOOD" thing was a bit off-putting, too. And the unlimited surveillance rights you guys tripped over yourself to lay at Bush's feet. And so on.<br /><br /><i>"I would love to see them explain the healthcare debacle. Why is it that so many liberals refuse to acknowledge that history has proven that MANY of their ideas flat out don’t work? It’s really not hard."</i><br /><br />Oh! I know this one! It's because every other G-8 country has proper national health-care and it works REALLY WELL compared to out corporate morass. I've talked to a lot of Otherplacians, and their usual reaction to our system varies between bafflement that we put up with it to stunned horror at the thought of dealing with it.Consumer Unit 5012http://www.whitehouse.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-68584972786905090612009-09-09T14:03:04.420-04:002009-09-09T14:03:04.420-04:00"The simplest way to define conservatism is t...<i>"The simplest way to define conservatism is this: The belief that liberalism is wrong."</i><br /><br />Yes, we already knew that you all are nothing but dipshit reactionaries who can only define themselves in opposition to an enemy, and have no real ideas, but thanks for reminding us.mantisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-44794791050034207062009-09-09T07:41:10.667-04:002009-09-09T07:41:10.667-04:00So, in response to criticism of your calling for r...So, in response to criticism of your calling for rural relocation and re-education for urban Jews, you post a "question" asking: are "liberal" and "idiot" synonymous?<br /><br />Gosh that will show them. That response will easily prove that you were simply "misinterpreted" in your first insane post, since it's so serious, adult, and not at all adolescent and silly.<br /><br />One of the hallmarks of making statements that are hideous racial screeds is that you don't even know you did it. That is, not seeing how remarkably totalitarian and anti-semetic your post was isn't a defense against the fact that it was. <br /><br />That's usually how it works.Bill E Pilgrimhttp://www.billepilgrimmm.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-10296452106529381332009-09-08T22:15:31.233-04:002009-09-08T22:15:31.233-04:00This gem:
"I am damned tired of these Humpty-...This gem:<br />"I am damned tired of these Humpty-Dumpty games, where words mean whatever liberals want them to mean."<br />Is followed by this gem:<br />"Today it seems, it is considered more enlightened to advocate the confining of Jews to an urban American shtetl of progressivism."<br />Seems like Humpty -Dumpty just fell off of the wall. Better the games where words mean what Conservatives want them to mean,eh? I am shocked--shocked!-- this kind of hypocrisy is taking place on a Conservative blog....<br /><br />I've noticed that there is this knee jerk reaction on the Right that leads to accusations of "moral superiority"(as if such a thing existed) that certainly is born of an innate inferiority complex.<br />Do I really deem myself "fit to lecture", or am I simply exercising my right to speak my mind? Or is this right only recognized if I'm carrying a pitchfork at a town-hall meeting?<br />Did I distort your argument, or was I simply playing the game according to your rules( or to the Conservatives' rules).<br />And it is a game afterall.<br />The question remains, why have you not condemned Ann Coulters' statement about Jews conversion to Christianity?<br />I'm sorry, I'm still in game mode.<br />Like my friend Rimbaud once said--This means nothing.<br />Apres moi, le deluge....Young 4-Eyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04159195318322896154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-65470363148149142852009-09-08T21:41:44.920-04:002009-09-08T21:41:44.920-04:00Young 4-Eyes wrote: "I'm beginning to thi...<b>Young 4-Eyes wrote</b>: <i>"I'm beginning to think that Stacy's relocation faux pas is not the slip of the tongue it seems to be . . ."</i><br /><br />It was neither a faux pas nor a "slip of the tongue," Y4E, and I did not advocate "relocation" -- <i>i.e.</i>, some sort of programmatic coercion -- as your idiot liberal friends continue to insinuate. How about let's talk about what I actually wrote, rather than your own paranoid fantasies, eh?<br /><br />I am damned tired of these Humpty-Dumpty games, where words mean whatever liberals want them to mean. What I wrote, after extensively offering anecdotal examples of differences in politically significant cultural attitudes fostered by differences between urban and rural lifestyles, was this:<i><br /><br />If Messrs. Podhorhetz, et al., wish to promote conservatism among American Jews, let them find some way to encourage Jewish families to move to small towns in the Heartland . . .</i><br /><br />Not even the remotest suggestion of coercion, nor even anything approaching a "program" or "policy." Rather, I suggested that Podhoretz et al., "encourage" a greater American <i>disapora</i>, as it were, away from the centers of urban liberalism and out into the Red State regions of our nation.<br /><br />In an earlier age, when liberalism owed something more to the etymological roots of that designation, a liberal might have been said that I encouraged Podhoretz et al. to promote a greater <i>assimilation</i>. Today it seems, it is considered more enlightened to advocate the confining of Jews to an urban American <i>shtetl</i> of progressivism.<br /><br />You will excuse me for failing to be impressed by liberal assumptions of moral superiority, deeming yourself fit to lecture others about "over-simplistic proclamations," when you so blithely and dishonestly distort the arguments of others.Robert Stacy McCainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03084541621503669804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-18141310253613083212009-09-08T20:01:10.469-04:002009-09-08T20:01:10.469-04:00" Why, getting rid of NY of course. (Hehehe: ..." Why, getting rid of NY of course. (Hehehe: I wouldn’t be surprised if our debt dropped 10% if NY disappeared.)"<br />I...think this is what Bin Laden had in mind.<br />Seriously, relocating Jews to rural America, giggling like a little girl at the thought of NYC disappearing.... is there in no end to the Talibanism of the Right?<br />I'm beginning to think that Stacy's relocation faux pas is not the slip of the tongue it seems to be, as he was quite fleet of finger in changing the topic. Then again, he's a big Ann Coulter supporter. If Ann Coulter believes in Jewish redemption via conversion, then is Stacy far off?<br />Who knows? Afterall, he defines Conservatism as "Liberalism is wrong".If you need to define yourself by what someone else is not, then you end up no better than Rev Dr. E Buzz up there who seems to spend most of his time overcompensating for his tiny manhood with over-simplistic proclamations...Young 4-Eyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04159195318322896154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-48611542776686282962009-09-08T16:30:09.697-04:002009-09-08T16:30:09.697-04:00I’m still trying to figure out how those of us who...I’m still trying to figure out how those of us who oppose a welfare state are geared towards authoritarian systems. Last time I checked welfare meant that the government decided based on “calculated need” who is allowed to receive money, how much they are allowed to have and where/what they are allowed to spend it on. If that’s not an example of an authoritarian system then the WTF qualifies? I would love to see them explain the healthcare debacle. Why is it that so many liberals refuse to acknowledge that history has proven that MANY of their ideas flat out don’t work? It’s really not hard.<br /><br />And I know the rebuttal- market forces aren’t proven not to work either. I mean look at how many people can’t afford (insert “right” here). Well that in itself is another flat out lie. No sane person expects the market to give a 100% equal result. What is does accomplish is allow the greatest amount of people to have access to the greatest amount of goods and services at the lowest possible price. I can buy a car, just not a mustang. I can rent, just not pay a mortgage. What would happen if Chinese labor suddenly wasn’t so cheap? How many poor people in America would no longer be able to buy a cell phone? I feel like many people need to get their heads of the butts, forget their Utopian vision of the world and focus on reality. Heck, before the Great Depression, unemployment was at 3%. Under GW unemployment was at 4-4.5%. That is low and reasonable for a society and economy as complex as ours. You can’t fix everyone’s problems.<br /><br />And as far as this whole monetary sink/donor state business- it ultimately doesn’t matter. So what that CA (and the rest) receives less in the way of federal funds? What ultimately matters is how a state is managed. The big blue donors, with exception of PA, are terribly managed. They’re in the hole. Even if they did get the bulk of their money back, I still doubt it will get them out of the hole. And the reality is, if TX left the union vs NY, that would be a big kick in the pants. Why? It’s like a company letting go a profitable division vs one that is not profitable. Example: one division contributes positively to the company’s baseline, but is dragging their profit margin down with debt, while the other division contributes a close net of $0 to the baseline and is also pulling in a profit. NY may contribute 0.76 to the company, but they are also spending $1.50. TX contributes $0.03 and pulls a profit of $1.00. Which would you get rid of? Which would have an immediate POSITIVE impact on the company, or in this case the economy? Why, getting rid of NY of course. (Hehehe: I wouldn’t be surprised if our debt dropped 10% if NY disappeared.)DarkGravityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11553405429405311925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-43087460341811805162009-09-08T13:21:27.762-04:002009-09-08T13:21:27.762-04:00What Mr King above forgot to mention is that Texas...What Mr King above forgot to mention is that Texas gets $0.97 of federal money for every dollar in federal taxes paid...good enough for 30th in the nation. Dead last among "donor states".<br /><br />Not exactly a vital link in the nation's financial chain. Those left coast states that Texas is "supporting"? Yeah, not so much...they include states like Califrnia ($0.92), New Jersey ($0.39), Pennsylvania ($0.59), Oregon ($0.35), Massachusets ($0.77) and New York ($0.24). As it turns out, 21 blue states are bigger donor states than Texas. <br /><br />We would survive just fine without Texas. But considering that due to rapid demographic changes Texas will be a blue state by 2016, I doubt there's much chance of them leaving anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-67350138732505962762009-09-08T12:50:08.257-04:002009-09-08T12:50:08.257-04:00Psst...if enough people move to small towns, they ...Psst...if enough people move to small towns, they eventually become big cites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-52568902840389880192009-09-08T12:44:45.996-04:002009-09-08T12:44:45.996-04:00I kind of think you need to rethink the whole &quo...I kind of think you need to rethink the whole "red states are monetary sinks" thing, there Mr. Anonymous. Texas is a red state. If we were to secede today, our economy would instantly get a massive kick in the pants because all our taxes would stay here. We are a so-called 'donor' state. That means we pay more in taxes to the federal government than we get back in benefits. There are states that get back more than they pay. Those states tend to have large populations of underpaid workers and huge city infrastructures to support. Allow red states to keep stop supporting the two left coasts and you'll see an unprecedented economic boom! Let us control our own resources, our own farming and manufacturing policies and we'll do nicely thank you. Monetary sink, indeed!<br /><br />Tom King<br />http://twayneking.blogspot.comTom Kinghttp://twayneking.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-14708817403634840112009-09-08T12:11:11.539-04:002009-09-08T12:11:11.539-04:00What are you talking about? The Frankfurt School w...What are you talking about? The Frankfurt School was discredited by William Buckley? Um, I don't think so.<br /><br />It seems you forgot to address the bit about sending Jews to the country to learn conservatism. What of it? Should we send them to Indiana? Cos Indiana is blue now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-55654651732880489622009-09-08T11:05:07.332-04:002009-09-08T11:05:07.332-04:00If your contention is that Cities == liberalism, w...If your contention is that Cities == liberalism, why not attack the source, and "somehow" "encourage" everyone to live in the boonies?<br /><br />Ah, but since those big evil cities seem to be required for good ole' country independence (red states being net monetary sinks, fed by blue states), maybe it would be better to make it more like temporary camps. You know, for re-education.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-50585335640378912812009-09-08T10:34:41.336-04:002009-09-08T10:34:41.336-04:00'Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose....'Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. When you point out how idiotically circular are the "intellectual" arguments that beguile liberals, their response is the same as it was a half-century ago. The finger is pointed at you and the furious shrieking is heard: "Fascist!"'<br /><br />Beautifully put. Elegant, simple, plenary.<br /><br />I am sure you see it, but I will mention it nonetheless: this turning facts and truth on its head by "liberals" (I prefer "bolshevik communists") and now also purge-ist "conservatives" (I prefer "fabian communists") is intended to co-opt terminology that elicits more respect than terminology the cop-opters represent.<br /><br />The history of their term co-opting suggests that the actual communist agenda has been in spate for a century and more.<br /><br />In the late 19th Century and early 20th, "liberal" meant "humanist" and its banner was carried by industrialists and merchants such as induced the young Kaiser Bill to eschew von Bismarck and march against France, which brought in England. Its theological father was Ritschl.<br /><br />"Communist" then meant communist in the classical sense of eliminating private property for the "greater good" -- living in commune.<br /><br />"Liberal" was more acceptable in society generally since private property is not considered an alienable reality by its holders, including communists such as Drummond Pike.<br /><br />So communists co-opted the term liberal for themselves. This gave rise to the distinction between Fabians ("liberal" communists, a/k/a humanists in academe, the "polite" communists FDR brought from Harvard to D.C. and who have run the place ever since, but never so thoroughly as they wished) and Bolsheviks ("extremist" communists, the street-fighters, demonstrators, extortioners, vanguard of the revolution, who were actually well-controlled by the "polite" communists in academe and government).<br /><br />Now that "conservative" is seen as more acceptable to society generally, polite communists are moving to co-opt it for themselves. To do this they must shift the taxonomy to the left. Extremist communists (bolsheviks) become liberals and polite communists (fabians) become conservatives.<br /><br />It's a neat trick that has worked before and has much to commend it to nefarious minds. I am sure it has not escaped your attention.<br /><br />Both varieties of tyranny, fascism and communism, must fly under false flags to gain the upper hand on citizens. The mission of the Frankfurt School was to create and manufacture whatever succession of such flags would be required by circumstances, which remain dynamic. One day communism is this, the next it is that. Its constants are its nature and its MO.<br /><br />Tides Foundation.David R. Grahamhttp://adwaitha-hermitage.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-76679477126728081152009-09-08T10:08:15.512-04:002009-09-08T10:08:15.512-04:00There is no intellectual honesty amongst the lefti...There is no intellectual honesty amongst the lefties, that's among the reasons why I stopped believing in all that crap. <br /><br />They simply ignore the facts and move on to the next emotional panty-wadding subject. If you can't stand argument and accept when you're wrong, then you can't stand for your beliefs.<br /><br />Idiots.Rev Dr E Buzznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-23799266862070234932009-09-08T09:41:45.544-04:002009-09-08T09:41:45.544-04:00You have a very simplistic view of what creates po...You have a very simplistic view of what creates political affiliation if you think moving Jews (or anyone else) to the country would have any appreciable effect. That is, it the cat has kittens in the oven, they're not biscuits.<br /><br />(In any case are the 40%+ Democratic voters in Red stated not really rural or American?)<br /><br />Ad hom time: you're vile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-51976158779721959292009-09-08T09:32:22.944-04:002009-09-08T09:32:22.944-04:00The liberal Balloon Juice? If by "liberal&quo...The liberal Balloon Juice? If by "liberal" you mean brain dead and factually challenge, then sure, it's liberal.<br /><br />I'd call it retarded, but that's an insult to retarded people.physics geekhttp://physicsgeek.mu.nunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-45034285653213759422009-09-08T09:21:47.895-04:002009-09-08T09:21:47.895-04:00Hey lib, I am assuming you're watching how Nan...Hey lib, I am assuming you're watching how Nancy and Harry and Barney are calling people names, and Barry calling people names with the help of the entire visual media.<br /><br />So, when Barry promised the moon, lyingly, and is now paying the price for being a bullshit artist, and had his media and congress attack US citizens for expressing their minds, what do you have to say about that?<br /><br />It never fails that liberals are so fucking un-selfaware. I see it all the time. You cannot see what it is you are.Rev Dr E Buzznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-47440270690996544762009-09-08T08:11:23.230-04:002009-09-08T08:11:23.230-04:00"The simplest way to define conservatism is t..."The simplest way to define conservatism is this: The belief that liberalism is wrong."<br /><br />And that, my friend, is why conservatism failed so badly in the last election. You have to offer people more than that. You have to explain, not just why the other guy is bad, but why you're better. And you're contiuing the conservative tradition of failure to do that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-37994118198439832712009-09-08T07:08:44.706-04:002009-09-08T07:08:44.706-04:00So how do you "encourage" more Jews to r...So how do you "encourage" more Jews to relocate to the sticks? You think Oklahoma is a fine enough place for Jews for "behavior modification"? <br /><br />Jeez! You really have to rethink your third observation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-24703762139980632402009-09-08T02:36:06.933-04:002009-09-08T02:36:06.933-04:00Are you saying "Max Blumenthal is a little pu...Are you saying "Max Blumenthal is a little putz?" In other words, he carries no cigar?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com