tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post4336186855718977262..comments2024-02-24T00:37:43.087-05:00Comments on The Other McCain: 'Natural causes'? Ri-iiightRobert Stacy McCainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03084541621503669804noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-29530918058905874042009-12-23T10:25:03.496-05:002009-12-23T10:25:03.496-05:00None of the other meds listed there are known to c...None of the other meds listed there are known to cause akathisia, whihc is a consequence of meds with significant dopaminergic activity.<br /><br /> But she may have been experiencing other activiation type side effects from the fluoxetine (tremors, anxiety) if the dose was high enough, and that could explain the propranolol. But that still strikes me as a bad idea in someone with an obviously significant mood disorder. Propranolol is a beta blocker with pretty strong central nervous system side effects, it can cause depression all by itself.<br /><br />Lorazepam (Ativan), or sedating antihistamines like hydroxyzine are more commonly used for these side effects (that, or lowering the dose of the offending agent.)<br /><br />Carbamazepine is not for diabetes, it was originally developed as an anti-convulsant, but it is also used as a mood stabilizer (an adjunct for psychosis, depression, or bipolar disorder.)<br /><br />Topamax is also used as an adjunct for mood disorders, but is considered second line at best.<br /><br />None of those meds listed are known for being particularly cardiotoxic, if these are related to her death it would almost certainly mean a large (and likely intentional) overdose. The single drug that would best match the available information would be the propranolol, a large overdose causing severe slowing of the heart, leading to arrest.<br /><br />ThomasDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-71542352405330349812009-12-22T12:15:04.167-05:002009-12-22T12:15:04.167-05:00Stacy: It's only "natural" that a pe...Stacy: It's only "natural" that a person's body gives out when abused by drugs. Just as it's "natural" to bleed out after you've been shot.<br />Natural causes!<br />(The only other explanation would be super-natural causes. Rule out bite marks on her neck!)Mike aka Proofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08931553845065187278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-39401723828715012232009-12-22T12:13:30.511-05:002009-12-22T12:13:30.511-05:00It is so sad. I am glad that she did not have any...It is so sad. I am glad that she did not have any kids but maybe that is why so went off the deep end with all the drugs; she had an empty Godless life like so many other secularists.<br /><br />I also beleive that the doctor and the drug store that prescribed/filled all these drugs to her should be charged with involuntary manslaughter but that won't happen. <br /><br />Most top conservatives on all these blogs don't quote Michael Savage very much but he really hit the bullseye with his book-"Liberalism is a Mental Disorder".<br /><br />Merry Christmas everyone and you too Robert Stacy McCain.<br /><br />DW somewhere in The Tahoe National Forest...GoldRushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08234005159751666884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4223398383609158624.post-70570606313637204632009-12-22T11:16:32.378-05:002009-12-22T11:16:32.378-05:00Propanolol was probably in there to counteract som...Propanolol was probably in there to counteract some of the side effects of the other meds (akithesia).Dan Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18003419431016626023noreply@blogger.com